I understand what you are saying Michael. However, the Fresh Fire website is still hawking "Developing Your Seer Ability" right on the same page as their little letter about "please pray for Todd". I think that Todd was used at Lakeland and I honestly am saddened by what has happened to him and his family. However the things (mostly a lot of dollars) that brought him to that place of prominence are still in place and the people who benefited from this "lack of discernment" are still in place. The lamb (in this case Todd) is slain but the moneychangers have plenty more where he came from.

The fact that the claims of the adjoining ministries are still going forward apparently unphased and significantly unrepentant (over Todd) makes me very angry. If there was something rotten BEFORE his fall there is even more wrong with the way they are trying to sweep it under the rug and just make it all go away (so they can get back in business). For "apostles" who want to give me an impartation of the spirit they certainly are blind.

1Ki 18:22-28 Then said Elijah unto the people, I, even I only, remain a prophet of the LORD; but Baal's prophets are four hundred and fifty men. (23) Let them therefore give us two bullocks; and let them choose one bullock for themselves, and cut it in pieces, and lay it on wood, and put no fire under: and I will dress the other bullock, and lay it on wood, and put no fire under: (24) And call ye on the name of your gods, and I will call on the name of the LORD: and the God that answereth by fire, let him be God. And all the people answered and said, It is well spoken. (25) And Elijah said unto the prophets of Baal, Choose you one bullock for yourselves, and dress it first; for ye are many; and call on the name of your gods, but put no fire under. (26) And they took the bullock which was given them, and they dressed it, and called on the name of Baal from morning even until noon, saying, O Baal, hear us. But there was no voice, nor any that answered. And they leaped upon the altar which was made. (27) And it came to pass at noon, that Elijah mocked them, and said, Cry aloud: for he is a god; either he is talking, or he is pursuing, or he is in a journey, or peradventure he sleepeth, and must be awaked. (28) And they cried aloud, and cut themselves after their manner with knives and lancets, till the blood gushed out upon them.

Mat 21:12-13 And Jesus went into the temple of God, and cast out all them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the moneychangers, and the seats of them that sold doves, (13) And said unto them, It is written, My house shall be called the house of prayer; but ye have made it a den of thieves.

Sometimes picking up the rug and exposing the rat is all it takes to appear to be mocking. Selling "Seer" DVD's on the same page as you are bemoaning a breakdown in discernment is a little too rich of a target for me to pass on (oh oh sign me up!).