Ha, you guys are silly gooses...I personally know DJ Caleb, he's one of my good friends. I think you are taking what he is saying out of context. The guys reads his word everyday. He was saying that the word needs to go beyond an intellectual level and become ingrained in us. Also if you study the word "mystic" you will see that the apostles and saints would fit the definition of a mystic. Let's go deeper people...there is a lost and dying world out there. Let's not tear down people you don't know thus don't truly understand...We as Christians should know better then anyone that it's not enough to know about someone, but it's knowing them personally that we can understand them. So let's build each other up, and get outside the church and be a light in the darkness and focus our attention on the lost and dying...don't go to church...be the church..