Phil wrote the following:  My response is in red ( Mishel)

Mishel,

Now that you have misinterpreted what I said it is quite clear to me where the issue is - so I will address each of your points to make my position abundantly clear to you and your band of not so merry men: {first of all I included YOUR words in the post for this very reason as I knew that the first claim would be that I twisted your words.  I am also curious as to who this "band of merry men" are - Could you point to some evidence to suggest that there might be someone other than myself running this site?}

1- dont be afraid if something is God or not - If you knew God's voice then you would not spend so much time decrying someone's ministry (lest someone else be deceived). God is not going to trick His people. I do not believe I am deceived and I follow Him whole-heartedly. It is not in Satan's business to make people hunger more for God's Word, His Spirit, and His Son - Jesus Christ. So go figure...{ aaaaah see you are wrong there.... He does send delusion to those believers who do not hold to the Truth- that is scriptural.  First you say dont be afraid if its God or not- then you realize ooops maybe should not of said that...so you explain it away by stating something that does not support your first statement.  As far as satan making people hungry for God- hes not- he is making people hungry for the supernatural.  You seem to forget that I was IN this movement- deeply.  I never once saw ANYONE read from a Bible. The Bible was replaced by progressive revelations.  Why read your Bible if "jesus" himself visits you every other night.  I was there- I know what they teach- I know what they beleive and I know the agenda.}

2- Don't worry about getting the theology right - Of course, if someone is preaching heresy you have every right to object. {Todd Bentley IS preaching heresy- if you dont beleive that after all the FACTS then there is nothing or no one that can convince you}The fact, is that there is a group of perverted naval gazers who spend so much time (as did the Pharisees) summing up whether or not a person meets their theological standards, that they miss the fact that God can move through whom He chooses. {I am a perverted naval gazer because I say that Bentley is a heretic and provide proof? } He can move through donkeys - He can move through those casting out demons in His name (Jesus said VERY plainly in scripture that casting out demons in His name is NO indication of belonging to Him.  IN fact he said that many would come in the last days saying ...Lord Lord look at all this cool stuff we did and he will say depart from me I never knew you.  Also I do not recall even one instance where Jesus diciples were "flustered" over him casting out a demon.}

3- Consider John 9 ( not sure how that supported your argument - but enjoyed the verses). Mishel to make it very clear - the Pharisees were very quick to judge Jesus because he didn't tick their religious sabbath box. Perhaps you have put on a pedestal, in a not dissimilar way - your box of how and when God can move - and more importantly whom He move through. If people are being healed and saved and following Christ whole heartedly - then what is your problem? {So let me get this straight. I was in this movement for years- believed in all of this hook line and sinker, shook, laughed, roared, pogoed,  and vibrated, but NOW because I have examined it all, turned and repented- NOW I am limiting God because He doesnt "tick my religious box?"  Does that honestly make sense to you?  I mean seriously- come on- does it? As far as the healing goes- occultists, New Agers and the bunch claim miraculous healings as well.  We can not use healing as the sole basis for judgement.  Who is to say that these people are healed- I sincerely hope they are, however there is a lot of hype and showmanship.  Did Jesus ever have to build people's faith up by going through every healing he had ever committed before he healed someone?  No-- there was no hype- no hours of worship and whipping the crowd into a frenzy- He just did it. In terms of people getting saved-let me tell you this.  In all the time I was in this movement I never once heard a message of salvation or repentance- not once.  I was not there for one or two meetings- I was steeped in it for years and years.  Can you provide me a clip of Bentley giving an altar call or asking people to confess Jesus as their Lord and Saviour.}

4- Don't worry about being deceived by false [sic] ministries - I never wrote that (so who is bearing false testimony - by skewing my words for their agenda? Hmmm) { It was implied- if you disagree that it was implied are you suggesting now that we SHOULD worry about false ministers?}

5- Don't miss "something" because you don't understand the theology ( its that very something that I am worried about). There is a big difference between dismissing something and missing something.  { I dissmissed it only after being IN it- I have not missed it - trust me I have had every manifestation there is.  I was so hungry and I saw what I thought was meat.  I ate it however while it was digesting the poison of what I had ate was slowly killing me.  Finally, I rejected it and threw it up. } Perhaps you should continue to read articles more carefully. { what articles are you referring to?}You might find points you invalidated - were actually because of your interpretation rather than what is actually said. As I go through your list I am becoming more convinced that you are just looking for something to be deceived by. Bon appetite! {Have you actually examined any of my articles - can you tell me what this assumption is based on with examples?}

6-Consider the fact that we non-Bentleyites have misconceived ideas and should just follow the advice of someone such as yourself who obviously has it right. I am not a Bentleyite. I will take your word for that I am a Christian. Would my world come crashing down tomorrow - if Bentley 'fell from grace'. No! { By Bentleyites I meant those who follow this type of teaching} Do you know why Mishel? Because I follow Christ - a man who will never fall from grace. Do I have everything right? No. I don't - but then again I am not the one who feels the need to set up a whole website to broadcast why they are right, and why Todd Bentley (and the other movements you have been involved are) are wrong. So Mishel, with all due respect - who is the one who is promoting themselves as being right? Thanks for the opportunity to use your illuminatingly 'right' website (so aptly named after its author) {Hey no problem- you are welcome to post here anytime you like- seriously- you do not have to agree with me-you do not even have to like me-  you are still welcome here.}

7- Read our bible- pray and be "open" suggesting that of couse we haven't been. To those who are "open" it is abundantly clear that you are not. {So only the ones that accept this are "open"?}

Mishel, I weep for you brother. { where is my gender listed on this site- it isn't - why do you assume I am a man} If only you dedicated as much time spreading the Good News of the Gospel to those who are lost - rather than your misguided mission to save those who have already found the truth of God's saving grace and healing. I pray that God sustains those who promote His word. {I am doing simply what I feel God asked me to do- whether you agree or disagree is entirely up to you}