Holy Spirit or Kundalini

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Please view the following video in light of the following article at:  http://www.deceptionbytes.com/Todd-Bentleys-Fire-of-Kundalini  Do you honestly think these are the manifestations of God Holy Spirit?


View this very disturbing video of some gentlemen from the United Kingdom as the "annointing" falls on them after a Todd Bentley meeting in Lakeland. At first the camera angle is tilted and it is hard to watch but the person filming does straighten the angle out as you get into it a bit. The first gentleman talking is describing a similar experience to Todd Bentley's in which an angle supposedly reaches in and grabs his guts and throws them on the floor. While I have not doubt that these men are experienceing something real it most certainly is not the HOLY Spirit. Watch as the "annointing" hits this man and he starts thrashing around. The Holy Spirit does not take over our bodies.

 

Anonymous (not verified) on May 26, 2008 - 9:31pm

WARNING: THE FOLLOWING POST IS ONLY FOR PEOPLE OVER 21 AND WITH A SOUND MIND. ALL OTHERS ARE NOT ALLOWED TO READ THE FOLLOWING COMMENT.

There are some old documentaries made by Dave Hunt (I think it is "seduction of Christianity" or something like that) that have actual footage of Indian/Hindu gurus and their services with thousands of people. It is old footage from I think the 70's and what was happening in there looked very similar to what goes on at all these heretical false Christian services, with false miracles, strange sounds, convulsions, paralysis, feelings of adrenalin/endorphin induced drug like high/floaty warm feelings, etc.

One can self induce most all these sensations in one's own body if one moves their body around, dances, or even through regular exercise for a long time until you raise your body temperature to a certain degree. You can even induce a drug like high feeling if you do benny hinn like false tongues gibberish for 30 minutes or more. These examples have absolutely NOTHING to do with the true Biblical examples of miracles (speaking in other TRUE languages, not gibberish for example) or signs of the Holy Spirit working through someone. ALL these examples can be found not only in Hindu religious meetings but also in other religions.

Mishel (not verified) on May 26, 2008 - 10:24pm

Yes I have seen that footage.  Actually that is a very well done video- it is old but the information is still very relevant.

Stephen (not verified) on May 31, 2008 - 12:23am

Your forgetting that God made our bodies that way so we could be in touch with Him. If that isn't really the Holy Spirit, God must have had a clever imagination. Of course we know it's the Holly Spirit, and whether your an atheist or a Christian, I still strongly believe in the gifts of the spirit, it's all throughout the word of God, acts2, 1corinthians 13&14, joel 2:28. If your an atheist, There is no way a system that complex could have just been thrown together, define a sound mind...does that mean a layed back mind that is willing to accept everything the world is trying to tell us, if that is the definition of the sound mind, I'd rather be called crazy. This is a dead generation that needs to open their eyes, for we are all going to see the face of God one day, that is a reality!

Stephen (not verified) on May 31, 2008 - 12:46am

where's some scripture to back that up? Everything you just said was all prophesied in collosians 2:28"see to it that no one takes you captive through through philosophy and empty decepton, according to the traditions of men, according to the elementary principles of the world rather than according to Christ. Everything you said was contradicted by the word of God, this i sthrough your own understanding.

Anonymous (not verified) on May 31, 2008 - 1:21am

"1)And when the day of Pentacost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place.
2) And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled the house wherhe they were sitting.
3) And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them.
4) And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.
5) And there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout me, out of ever nation under heaven.
6) Now when this was noised abroad, the multitude came together, and wer CONFOUNDED because theat every man heard them speak in his own language.
7)And they were all amazed and marvelled, saying one to another, behold, are not all these which speak Galileans?
........
12)And they were all amazed and were in DOUBT, saying one to another, "What meaneth this?"
13) Others MOCKING siad, these men are full of new wine.
........
15) For these men are not drunken, as you suppose, seeing it is but the third hour of the day.
16) But this is that which was spoken of by the prophet Joel;
17) And it will come to pass in the last days saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit on all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams.
18) And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of My Spirit; and they shall prophesy
19) And I will show wonders in the heaven above and signs in the earth beneath; blood and fire, and vapor of smoke:
20) The sun shall be turned into darkness and the moon into blood before that great and notable day of the Lord come;
21)And it shall come to pass that whoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved.
22)You men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by MIRACLES and WONDERS and SIGNS, which God did by him in the midst of you..."

ACTS 2:1-22

Soo... It is written also, that the works Jesus did are too numerous to be written even in all the books in the world. There are many that were not recorded. Could some of them have been like what was shown above?? Then Jesus said, greater works than these shall you do because I go to the Father. Hmm...

Isaiah 29:9 "Stay yourselves, and wonder; cry ye out, and cry: they are drunken, but not with wine; they stagger, but not with strong drink."
Well what else is there??? If they are drunk, and it's not strong drink or wine... only one other thing. lol...

One more thing. Colossians 2:8 "Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ."

Look, i'm being honenst, many of the articles on this website are filled with words. Maybe 6 pages of very insightful information, but it's all negative stuff about servants of God and how they are being used in evil ways, and maybe 2 nice lil scriptures thrown into the six pages of overwhelming info. There is a wave of delusion sweeping across this world. Revival, yes, but also delusion.
I'm not surprised that all this is arising. Satan won't just roll over and play dead for revival. Revival starts and satan gets angry. but you know what?

Woe to them that call evil good and good evil; that put darkness for light and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter! Woe to them that are wise in their own eyes and prudent in their own sight!
Isaiah 5:20-21

Blessed are you when men revile you and persecute you and say all maner of evil against you falsely for Christ name sake!! Rejoice and be exceedingly glad!! Great is your reward in heaven, for so persecuted they the prophets who came before you!!!

The Lord is just and the hearts of all are being weighed. none will go unchecked. The things of the Lord will not be stopped. None can stand against His people, none can stand against His move.
Come Lord Jesus, like a mighty rushing wind.

Anonymous (not verified) on May 31, 2008 - 10:54pm

Have you ever stuck your finger in an electrical socket?
Probably not, but you can guess what happens.
YOU SHAKE.

It's a natural reaction your body has to such power.
Now, when the GOD OF THE UNIVERSE, who CREATED electricity, touches flesh...
Wouldn't you expect the effects to be tens even hundreds or thousands of times more powerful and apparent on the human body?

When God comes so mightily and touches an individual, what do you expect?? That they just stand there? We're talking GOD.
Shaking is a natural reaction your FLESHLY body has from the glory of God. Your body just CAN'T handle such raw power of God!!!!

Mishel (not verified) on June 1, 2008 - 7:18am

A reader asks "if you have ever stuck your hand in a light socket"  no because if I did- I would die- how much more powerful would it be if the God of the universe touched me! If God actually touched a human being they would disintegrate.  The Bible says no man has even seen the face of God and lived. No the question should have been have you ever been "touched" to the point of shaking? Then the answer would be a resounding yes

I have shaken, jerked, trembled, fallen, cried, screamed, had gold dust, stumbled, been so drunk in the spirit that it lasted over a day, laughed unitl I threw up, and experienced a host of other werid manifestations.  I have been a part of the Toronto Blessing, and a part of Morningstar for years.  NONE OF IT IS GOD.  I needed to get deliverance for the demonic forces I allowed in my life at that time.  If anyone was hopelessly into this movement it was me.  However I had a strong background in the Bible and I began to really research what they were saying and presenting to me as truth. 

Of course no one can explain to me why NONE of these manifestations are found in the Bible but are very common in the occult.

I do not hate Todd Benltey- nor any of the others that are spreading this New Age mysticism.  I hate the lies but I most certainly do not hate the vessel those lies come through. I have presented Truth here to the best of my ability.  If you wish not to receive it then I wish you well- there is no agenda- I am not selling anything - and I am not a cessationist. I want people to to free.

Mishel (not verified) on June 1, 2008 - 7:24am

In regards to spiritual drunkeness please read the article at http://www.deceptionbytes.com/HaveAnotherDrinkSpiritual drunkeness IS in the Bible but it is always in association WITH THE JUDGEMENT OF GOD!

Allan (not verified) on June 1, 2008 - 10:24am

Nothing like the fruit of the spirit called "self control". Not!

Bud Press (not verified) on June 3, 2008 - 4:12am

Contact Mike Oppenheimer of Let Us Reason ministries at www.letusreason.org . He may have what you need.

Sue (not verified) on June 29, 2008 - 3:05am

never seen anything so ugly and ungodly - the height of deception, occult and apostate.

http://www.raptureradio.com

http://www.hiscomingministries.com

Marrike (not verified) on July 2, 2008 - 12:37pm

It does not only look like Kundalini (which I believe it is), but Todd is also using 'cold reading', tough he would call it: a word of knowledge. Just look at the video (somewhere in the middle) and tell: Would our Living God give Todd wrong information over and over?

Oh, and look at what he is doing with his hands..

http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=HBKeOh2RapY&feature=user

Timothy Luce (not verified) on July 14, 2008 - 1:39pm

Two Questions: Is Satan Stronger than God? Who are we praying to, Todd, or Our Father in Heaven? The answers to those questions will strike fear in your heart, or bring peace in light of God's word. Luke 11 11-54Note from Mishel: { I deleted 43 verses of scripture from this post.  While I do invite conversation quoting line after line after line of scripture without comment is not conversational.  I have left the scripture reference in and invite readers to read the scriptures in questions to acertain whether or not this poster has a valid point}

womenofwar (not verified) on September 8, 2008 - 11:41pm

You are so right this is so demonic and the fact that he preys on the sick because they so desperately want to be healed vexes my spirit.

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